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Robert Wilson

4. Trends & the Arts



Acceleration, globalization and the convergence of space - do these trends influence your thinking in space-time dimensions?

Well I think that yes it does. I mean maybe it works with it with doing the opposite. And I think one of the things that is necessary is to have an institution for me like this which is in a natural environment so that one can be outdoors. One has a sense of nature. The time it takes for clouds to change. I am looking out of the window now and see a tree that is very gently moving in a breeze. But I got time to watch this tree move.

And with the globalization and the acceleration I think more and more we are going to need a place and a space where one can go and be calm and can have a relief from the busy every day life. So I think there would be a necessity for something that man can go and reflect. What one does when one goes to a park and sits on a bench and daydreams or one goes into a country for a holiday or for a weekend. But maybe we could have a theater box that more or less could do the same thing.

The theater as a place of calm and reflection?

I think so. The theater could be anything. It's a forum. And man since years has congregated in forums and had exchanges - what theater is. I think man will always do that. It is in the nature of man to collect together and have these forums of exchange.

Do you see a revolution in arts and theater performances that is caused by new technologies?

I think the example I just told of the mother picking up the baby which now becomes more observant to body behavior and body language by slowing down movement I see something else, I think of something else, is the direct result from the media, from film, from an environment that is speeded up, that is accelerated.

How does this revolution take place? How will the theater change?

Theater will always be changing because of the necessities of man. People are looking for an alternative to television or the business of life. Man has a necessity to turn to something else. I see that my work is to be considered avant-garde, which I like. Avant-garde means to rediscover the classics.

I described it - we are working on this new piece as a classical form. It can go back to Shakespeare and to Beethoven. That is a pattern, a structure they used. We are filling it in with the tools of our time. And sometimes it is a reaction against the tools of our time but it is still a part. It's like we have two hands. My left hand is very different from my right hand. But they are at one body. Heaven can't exist without hell and hell can't exist without heaven. That is not one thing. These are two things. So some things that happen as a reaction against the globalization of the world is part of the one face of what is happening today.

Digitization, Biotechnologization, Globalization - how do you translate these words into visions and sounds? Doing the contrary?

Yes, you must contradict yourself or contradict the situation and support it, too. You can't believe any one thing too much, you must always believe the opposite. I always tell the actor on stage if you're walking on stage and the director tells you to turn right and you think you are going to fall down. The director tells you to turn right and you turn right but you think you are going left. You have a different experience.

So, as I said, what I am doing is a reaction against it, that is also part of it. But at the same time I embrace it. I mean all the workers. I mean I couldn't been doing what I am doing if we didn't have what is happening today. So I am working with the tools, directly with it and support it or directly against it. That's a decision you make. It is important to do both.

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